Wayne Madsen is an investigative journalist, the author of 21 books, and the publisher of the Wayne Madsen Report. His latest book is The Rise of the Fascist Fourth Reich: The Era of Trumpism and the New Far-Right.
My full interview with Madsen will run later this week on Failed State Update.
Madsen is a firebrand who has never had much time for either fascists or the fascist-adjacent. That's why I was intrigued when I found out he had covered the 2016 Democratic and Republican National Conventions for Infowars.
Madsen's relationship with Alex Jones goes back two decades. At first, Madsen knew Jones as a libertarian. He stopped associating with the broadcaster after Jones's fascist sympathies became clear.
"I got to know a lot of his people," Madsen says. "And what I saw I didn't like. One of the guys I got to know is Joe Biggs, who's the head of the Proud Boys. He's in jail right now in Orlando, here in Florida. And the guy is a provocateur. I can't believe he was in the military, but he was. When I was in the military, I don't think he would have passed a psych test to be allowed in."
In March 2021, a federal grand jury indicted Biggs for conspiracy in connection with the Capitol riots.
Jones "grew up in Dallas, where his parents live," Madsen says. "His parents were members of the John Birch Society in 1963. And that was the group that physically attacked Adlai Stevenson, our ambassador to UN and former presidential candidate and Governor of Illinois."
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You can see news coverage of the attack here:
After the attack, Stevenson advised President Kennedy to cancel his scheduled campaign stop in Dallas in November 1963. Of course, Kennedy didn't cancel the visit, and the rest is history.
Alex Jones's "parents used to have John Birchers over for dinner," Madsen continues. "I think Alex Jones got exposed to this at a pretty young age."
When Madsen arrived in Cleveland before the 2016 Republican National Convention, neither Jones nor his team were anywhere to be found: "I was told that they were at a special dinner, a hush-hush dinner, hosted by Tucker Carlson," Madsen says.
The attendees for this "hush-hush dinner" are rumored to include Jones and at least one of his producers, Roger Stone, Nigel Farage, Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, and the "Dutch Donald Trump," Geert Wilders.
Madsen believes that the meeting was the forerunner to "Stop the Steal," a contingency plan in case Clinton won the 2016 election.
Madsen's latest book, The Rise of the Fascist Fourth Reich, details the players in the contemporary fascist movement in America and highlights the echoes between today's far-right politicians and historical events in Germany during the Third Reich.