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The Mariners are out to a very disappointing 8-13 start, but one of the most prominent insiders in the sport still believes in them.

Brady Farkas and Buster Olney speak on the latest 'Refuse to Lose' podcast.

The Seattle Mariners offense was largely non-existent again on Friday night, as the M's were shut out by the Texas Rangers 5-0 at T-Mobile Park.

It's the fourth time this season that the Mariners have been shut out, and they've dropped to 8-13, one of the most disappointing marks in the league.

While fan confidence is fading right now, they do have a believer in ESPN MLB Insider Buster Olney, who spoke with the 'Refuse to Lose' podcast before Friday's loss.

"I ​would ​say ​that ​it's ​still ​early. ​​I ​think ​that, ​generally ​speaking, ​we ​don't ​have ​a ​large ​enough ​sample ​size ​to ​know ​exactly ​what's ​going ​on ​here, ​because ​when ​you ​go ​through ​the ​team, ​overall, ​they ​actually ​have ​a +4 run ​differential, ​which, ​as ​you ​know, ​you ​and ​I ​have ​talked ​about ​this ​before, front ​offices ​look ​at ​that ​as ​being ​a ​really ​important ​barometer ​for ​how ​the ​team ​is ​playing. ​

And, ​you ​know, +4 ​at ​this ​point, ​20 ​games ​in ​is ​not ​great, ​​but ​it's ​also ​not 'the ​sky ​is ​falling.' ​If you ​look ​at ​the ​individual ​pitching ​performances, ​(Andres) ​Munoz ​obviously ​has ​struggled. ​He's ​talked ​about ​his ​slider. That's ​the ​concern. ​But ​I ​really ​think ​it ​comes ​down ​to ​three ​players. ​

​I ​think ​it ​comes ​down ​to ​the ​three ​guys, ​the ​middle ​of ​your ​lineup ​that ​you're ​counting ​on ​to ​hit ​offensively, ​when ​it ​comes ​to ​Julio (Rodriguez), ​when ​it ​comes ​to ​Cal (Raleigh), ​and ​when ​it ​comes ​to ​Josh ​Naylor. ​And ​I ​think ​once ​those ​guys ​started ​hitting, ​this ​will ​be ​a ​very ​different ​looking ​team."

Seattle Mariners first baseman Josh Naylor (12) hits a single against the Texas Rangers during the sixth inning at T-Mobile Park. Steven Bisig-Imagn ImagesSeattle Mariners first baseman Josh Naylor (12) hits a single against the Texas Rangers during the sixth inning at T-Mobile Park. Steven Bisig-Imagn Images

Again, these comments were made before Friday's loss, so the M's run differential is now down to -1. The expected win-loss record is 10-11, suggesting the M's are slightly better than their actual record shows.

To Olney's point, the Mariners can't do much if the middle of the order is not performing. Rodriguez (.203), has just one home run and six RBIs. Raleigh (.163) has just two home runs, and Naylor (.141) has just seven RBIs. 

We can complain about a lot of things with the Mariners right now, but the list of issues really starts there.

The Mariners will look to get back on track on Saturday night in another tough matchup with the Rangers. First pitch is set for 4:15 p.m. PT as George Kirby battles against Nathan Eovaldi. Eovaldi beat the Mariners earlier this season, and Seattle is 0-4 against Texas already on the year.

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